This discussion (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13354329) on YCombinator made some noise a while ago, and having done both Dev and Ops, I feel there is some truth, but several lies as well as to how having sysadmin experience affects devs, and how dev experience affects sysadmins. The title is a play on words from JRR Tolkein’s Hobbit (There and back again), and will be told as a story